Thanks to PES for teaching us how not to design wood buildings for "toenails and a prayer" at last week's lunch and learn. They taught us that joist hangers are not just suggestions but also taught us an extensive amount about designing Type III & V buildings. For those reading, PES knows their stuff. Hire them or make them come teach you. They are knowledgeable, entertaining, & are all around good peeps. Y'all rock.